Grunwaldowy Zlot Harleyowcow

Są 3 rozpiski które rozważam, chociaż biorę też więcej pod uwagę wariantów (urodziły się oglądając rozpy ETC):

Ver. 1

Kod:

1 Sammael (HQ) @ 200 Pts
   
4 Ravenwing Command Squad (HQ) @ 295 Pts
   Ravenwing Grenade Launcher; Standard of Devastation [65]

    1 Ravenwing Apothecary @ [70] Pts
         (character); #Narthecium; Corvus Hammer; Plasma Talon

1 Librarian (HQ) @ 125 Pts
    Psyker (2); Space Marine Bike; Auspex;
    Force Axe

4 Ravenwing Command Squad (HQ) @ 245 Pts
    Ravenwing Grenade Launcher;
    Ravenwing Company Standard [15]

    1 Ravenwing Apothecary @ [70] Pts
         (character); #Narthecium; Corvus Hammer; Plasma Talon

5 Ravenwing Attack Squadron (Troops) @ 316 Pts
 Meltagun (x2);

    1 Ravenwing Attack Bike @ [55] Pts
        Multi-Melta (x1);
    1 Ravenwing Land Speeder @ [75] Pts
          Typhoon
         Missile (x1)

    1 Ravenwing Sergeant @ [31] Pts
         (character); TL Bolters; Bolt Pistol; Melta-Bombs

5 Ravenwing Attack Squadron (Troops) @ 316 Pts
    Bikes; ATSKNF; Grim Resolve (Stubborn); Hit & Run; Scouts; Ravenwing
    Combat Squads; #Power Armour; #Teleport Homer; Bolt Pistol (x5); TL Bolter
    (x4); Meltagun (x2); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Attack Bike @ [55] Pts
         Bolt Pistol (x1); Multi-Melta (x1); TL Bolter (x1); Frag Grenades;
         Krak Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Land Speeder @ [75] Pts
         Vehicle (Fast, Skimmer); Deep Strike; Heavy Bolter (x1); Typhoon
         Missile (x1)

    1 Ravenwing Sergeant @ [31] Pts
         (character); TL Bolters; Bolt Pistol; Melta-Bombs

5 Ravenwing Attack Squadron (Troops) @ 306 Pts
    Bikes; ATSKNF; Grim Resolve (Stubborn); Hit & Run; Scouts; Ravenwing
    Combat Squads; #Power Armour; #Teleport Homer; Bolt Pistol (x5); TL Bolter
    (x4); Flamer (x2); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Attack Bike @ [55] Pts
         Bolt Pistol (x1); Multi-Melta (x1); TL Bolter (x1); Frag Grenades;
         Krak Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Land Speeder @ [75] Pts
         Vehicle (Fast, Skimmer); Deep Strike; Heavy Bolter (x1); Typhoon
         Missile (x1)

    1 Ravenwing Sergeant @ [31] Pts
         (character); TL Bolters; Bolt Pistol; Melta-Bombs

1 Predator (Heavy Support) @ 145 Pts
    Vehicle (Tank); #Searchlight; #Smoke Launchers; Dozer Blade; 2 Sponson
    Lascannon; TL Lascannon

1 Ravenwing Darkshroud (Fast Attack) @ 80 Pts
    Vehicle (Fast, Skimmer); Deep Strike; Icon of Old Caliban; Scouts; Shroud
    of Angels; Heavy Bolter

1 Whirlwind (Heavy Support) @ 70 Pts
    Vehicle (Tank); #Searchlight; #Smoke Launchers; Dozer Blade; Incendiary
    Castellan Missiles; Vengeance Missiles

Models in Army: 41

Total Army Cost: 2098

Predzio i Wirnik do 2 tur ostrzeliwania z daleka i odciagniecia ognia od motorkow, ew. jak przezyja to meczenia z daleka, reszta jak zwykle.

Version 2

Kod:

1 Sammael (HQ) @ 200 Pts
    Warlord Trait: Rapid Manoeuvre; Warlord

    0 Corvex @ [0] Pts
         Jetbike; Hit & Run; Independent Character; Inner Circle; Scouts;
         Skilled Rider; Power Armour; #Frag Grenades; #Krak Grenades;
         #Teleport Homer; #Raven Sword; #Adamantine Mantle; #Night Halo; Bolt
         Pistol; Plasma Cannon; TL Storm Bolter

2 Ravenwing Command Squad (HQ) @ 215 Pts
    Bikes; ATSKNF; Grim Resolve (Stubborn); Hit & Run; Scouts; Skilled Rider;
    #Power Armour; #Teleport Homer; Bolt Pistol (x2); Corvus Hammer; Plasma
    Talon (x1); Ravenwing Grenade Launcher; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades
    Standard of Devastation [65]

    1 Ravenwing Apothecary @ [70] Pts
         (character); #Narthecium; Corvus Hammer; Plasma Talon

2 Ravenwing Attack Squadron (Troops) @ 155 Pts
    Bikes; ATSKNF; Grim Resolve (Stubborn); Hit & Run; Scouts; #Power Armour;
    #Teleport Homer; Bolt Pistol (x2); TL Bolter (x2); Meltagun (x2); Frag
    Grenades; Krak Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Attack Bike @ [55] Pts
         Bolt Pistol (x1); Multi-Melta (x1); TL Bolter (x1); Frag Grenades;
         Krak Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Sergeant @ [26] Pts
         (character); TL Bolters; Bolt Pistol

2 Ravenwing Attack Squadron (Troops) @ 155 Pts
    Bikes; ATSKNF; Grim Resolve (Stubborn); Hit & Run; Scouts; #Power Armour;
    #Teleport Homer; Bolt Pistol (x2); TL Bolter (x2); Meltagun (x2); Frag
    Grenades; Krak Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Attack Bike @ [55] Pts
         Bolt Pistol (x1); Multi-Melta (x1); TL Bolter (x1); Frag Grenades;
         Krak Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Sergeant @ [26] Pts
         (character); TL Bolters; Bolt Pistol

2 Ravenwing Attack Squadron (Troops) @ 155 Pts
    Bikes; ATSKNF; Grim Resolve (Stubborn); Hit & Run; Scouts; #Power Armour;
    #Teleport Homer; Bolt Pistol (x2); TL Bolter (x2); Meltagun (x2); Frag
    Grenades; Krak Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Attack Bike @ [55] Pts
         Bolt Pistol (x1); Multi-Melta (x1); TL Bolter (x1); Frag Grenades;
         Krak Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Sergeant @ [26] Pts
         (character); TL Bolters; Bolt Pistol

5 Ravenwing Attack Squadron (Troops) @ 236 Pts
    Bikes; ATSKNF; Grim Resolve (Stubborn); Hit & Run; Scouts; Ravenwing
    Combat Squads; #Power Armour; #Teleport Homer; Bolt Pistol (x5); TL Bolter
    (x4); Meltagun (x2); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Attack Bike @ [55] Pts
         Bolt Pistol (x1); Multi-Melta (x1); TL Bolter (x1); Frag Grenades;
         Krak Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Sergeant @ [26] Pts
         (character); TL Bolters; Bolt Pistol

5 Ravenwing Attack Squadron (Troops) @ 236 Pts
    Bikes; ATSKNF; Grim Resolve (Stubborn); Hit & Run; Scouts; Ravenwing
    Combat Squads; #Power Armour; #Teleport Homer; Bolt Pistol (x5); TL Bolter
    (x4); Meltagun (x2); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Attack Bike @ [55] Pts
         Bolt Pistol (x1); Multi-Melta (x1); TL Bolter (x1); Frag Grenades;
         Krak Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Sergeant @ [26] Pts
         (character); TL Bolters; Bolt Pistol

5 Ravenwing Attack Squadron (Troops) @ 236 Pts
    Bikes; ATSKNF; Grim Resolve (Stubborn); Hit & Run; Scouts; Ravenwing
    Combat Squads; #Power Armour; #Teleport Homer; Bolt Pistol (x5); TL Bolter
    (x4); Meltagun (x2); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Attack Bike @ [55] Pts
         Bolt Pistol (x1); Multi-Melta (x1); TL Bolter (x1); Frag Grenades;
         Krak Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Sergeant @ [26] Pts
         (character); TL Bolters; Bolt Pistol

4 Ravenwing Black Knights (Fast Attack) @ 215 Pts
    Bikes; ATSKNF; Grim Resolve (Stubborn); Hit & Run; Scouts; Skilled Rider;
    #Power Armour; #Teleport Homer; Bolt Pistol (x4); Corvus Hammer (x4);
    Plasma Talon (x3); Ravenwing Grenade Launcher (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak
    Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Huntmaster @ [47] Pts
         (character); Bolt Pistol; Corvus Hammer; Plasma Talon; Melta-Bombs

4 Ravenwing Black Knights (Fast Attack) @ 215 Pts
    Bikes; ATSKNF; Grim Resolve (Stubborn); Hit & Run; Scouts; Skilled Rider;
    #Power Armour; #Teleport Homer; Bolt Pistol (x4); Corvus Hammer (x4);
    Plasma Talon (x3); Ravenwing Grenade Launcher (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak
    Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Huntmaster @ [47] Pts
         (character); Bolt Pistol; Corvus Hammer; Plasma Talon; Melta-Bombs

1 Ravenwing Darkshroud (Fast Attack) @ 80 Pts
    Vehicle (Fast, Skimmer); Deep Strike; Icon of Old Caliban; Scouts; Shroud
    of Angels; Heavy Bolter

Models in Army: 51


Total Army Cost: 2098


Ver 3

Kod:

1 Sammael (HQ) @ 200 Pts
    Warlord Trait: Rapid Manoeuvre; Warlord

    0 Corvex @ [0] Pts
         Jetbike; Hit & Run; Independent Character; Inner Circle; Scouts;
         Skilled Rider; Power Armour; #Frag Grenades; #Krak Grenades;
         #Teleport Homer; #Raven Sword; #Adamantine Mantle; #Night Halo; Bolt
         Pistol; Plasma Cannon; TL Storm Bolter

1 Librarian (HQ) @ 125 Pts
    Bikes; Independent Character; Inner Circle; Psyker (2); Power Armour;
    #Psychic Hood; #Frag Grenades; #Krak Grenades; Space Marine Bike; Auspex;
    Bolt Pistol; Force Weapon

4 Ravenwing Command Squad (HQ) @ 245 Pts
    Bikes; ATSKNF; Grim Resolve (Stubborn); Hit & Run; Scouts; Skilled Rider;
    #Power Armour; #Teleport Homer; Bolt Pistol (x4); Corvus Hammer; Plasma
    Talon (x3); Ravenwing Grenade Launcher; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades
    Ravenwing Company Standard [15]

    1 Ravenwing Apothecary @ [70] Pts
         (character); #Narthecium; Corvus Hammer; Plasma Talon

1 Ravenwing Command Squad (HQ) @ 220 Pts
    Bikes; ATSKNF; Grim Resolve (Stubborn); Hit & Run; Scouts; Skilled Rider;
    #Power Armour; #Teleport Homer; Bolt Pistol (x1); Corvus Hammer; Ravenwing
    Grenade Launcher; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades
    Standard of Devastation [65]

    1 Ravenwing Apothecary @ [70] Pts
         (character); #Narthecium; Corvus Hammer; Plasma Talon

    1 Ravenwing Champion @ [45] Pts
         (character); Blade of Caliban; Bolt Pistol; Plasma Talon

2 Ravenwing Attack Squadron (Troops) @ 155 Pts
    Bikes; ATSKNF; Grim Resolve (Stubborn); Hit & Run; Scouts; #Power Armour;
    #Teleport Homer; Bolt Pistol (x2); TL Bolter (x2); Meltagun (x2); Frag
    Grenades; Krak Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Attack Bike @ [55] Pts
         Bolt Pistol (x1); Multi-Melta (x1); TL Bolter (x1); Frag Grenades;
         Krak Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Sergeant @ [26] Pts
         (character); TL Bolters; Bolt Pistol

2 Ravenwing Attack Squadron (Troops) @ 155 Pts
    Bikes; ATSKNF; Grim Resolve (Stubborn); Hit & Run; Scouts; #Power Armour;
    #Teleport Homer; Bolt Pistol (x2); TL Bolter (x2); Meltagun (x2); Frag
    Grenades; Krak Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Attack Bike @ [55] Pts
         Bolt Pistol (x1); Multi-Melta (x1); TL Bolter (x1); Frag Grenades;
         Krak Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Sergeant @ [26] Pts
         (character); TL Bolters; Bolt Pistol

2 Ravenwing Attack Squadron (Troops) @ 155 Pts
    Bikes; ATSKNF; Grim Resolve (Stubborn); Hit & Run; Scouts; #Power Armour;
    #Teleport Homer; Bolt Pistol (x2); TL Bolter (x2); Meltagun (x2); Frag
    Grenades; Krak Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Attack Bike @ [55] Pts
         Bolt Pistol (x1); Multi-Melta (x1); TL Bolter (x1); Frag Grenades;
         Krak Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Sergeant @ [26] Pts
         (character); TL Bolters; Bolt Pistol

5 Ravenwing Attack Squadron (Troops) @ 236 Pts
    Bikes; ATSKNF; Grim Resolve (Stubborn); Hit & Run; Scouts; Ravenwing
    Combat Squads; #Power Armour; #Teleport Homer; Bolt Pistol (x5); TL Bolter
    (x4); Meltagun (x2); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Attack Bike @ [55] Pts
         Bolt Pistol (x1); Multi-Melta (x1); TL Bolter (x1); Frag Grenades;
         Krak Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Sergeant @ [26] Pts
         (character); TL Bolters; Bolt Pistol

2 Ravenwing Attack Squadron (Troops) @ 155 Pts
    Bikes; ATSKNF; Grim Resolve (Stubborn); Hit & Run; Scouts; #Power Armour;
    #Teleport Homer; Bolt Pistol (x2); TL Bolter (x2); Meltagun (x2); Frag
    Grenades; Krak Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Attack Bike @ [55] Pts
         Bolt Pistol (x1); Multi-Melta (x1); TL Bolter (x1); Frag Grenades;
         Krak Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Sergeant @ [26] Pts
         (character); TL Bolters; Bolt Pistol

2 Ravenwing Attack Squadron (Troops) @ 155 Pts
    Bikes; ATSKNF; Grim Resolve (Stubborn); Hit & Run; Scouts; #Power Armour;
    #Teleport Homer; Bolt Pistol (x2); TL Bolter (x2); Meltagun (x2); Frag
    Grenades; Krak Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Attack Bike @ [55] Pts
         Bolt Pistol (x1); Multi-Melta (x1); TL Bolter (x1); Frag Grenades;
         Krak Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Sergeant @ [26] Pts
         (character); TL Bolters; Bolt Pistol

4 Ravenwing Black Knights (Fast Attack) @ 215 Pts
    Bikes; ATSKNF; Grim Resolve (Stubborn); Hit & Run; Scouts; Skilled Rider;
    #Power Armour; #Teleport Homer; Bolt Pistol (x4); Corvus Hammer (x4);
    Plasma Talon (x3); Ravenwing Grenade Launcher (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak
    Grenades

    1 Ravenwing Huntmaster @ [47] Pts
         (character); Bolt Pistol; Corvus Hammer; Plasma Talon; Melta-Bombs

1 Ravenwing Darkshroud (Fast Attack) @ 80 Pts
    Vehicle (Fast, Skimmer); Deep Strike; Icon of Old Caliban; Scouts; Shroud
    of Angels; Heavy Bolter

Models in Army: 46


Total Army Cost: 2096

Ver 2 i 3 są podobne, mają DUUUUŻO Anti tanku, po to, żeby upolować np latajki czy instantować jakieś upierdliwce które będą miały t obnizone do 4. Różnica w Librze, przewagą nad wersją 1 jest większa mobilność całej armii, brak easy killów jakimi są LandSpeedery, z drugiej strony przy scenariuszu na KP w rozpisce 1 nie muszę dzielić składów na trójki, poza tym trzymając 6tki łatwiej mi się utrzymać w zasięgu szmaty.

Mi najbardziej podoba się opcja w której masz 2 x command squad i librę lvl 2 oraz black knightów i szraudaciemnego w jednej na 3 gry masz 4 ++ i z Fnp znacznie zwiększoną przeżywalność. Resztę dopychasz 6 bikerów (co najmniej 3) i dzielisz wedle potrzeby.

Napisz mi też proszę dlaczego w tej rozpie musi być Sammy - nie znam aż tak tobrze twojego dexu, ale 2 libra na moturze to więcej szansy na 4 ++ i punkty zaoszczędzone na jakieś dodatki.

Sammael musi byc zeby biki byly w troopsach. Jeszcze azrael to daje ale on nie jest na biku.

I wszystko jasne - muszę poczytać w wolnej chwili raz jeszcze dex DA